Comments for The Underdog Blog http://underdogblog.wordpress.com (the drool on transmarginal inhibition's snout) Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:10:40 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on 243 Or How to undermine twitter accounts by chris http://underdogblog.wordpress.com/2009/09/30/243-or-how-to-undermine-twitter-accounts/#comment-273 chris Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:10:40 +0000 http://underdogblog.wordpress.com/?p=243#comment-273 working on that ;) working on that ;)

]]> Comment on 243 Or How to undermine twitter accounts by underdogblogger http://underdogblog.wordpress.com/2009/09/30/243-or-how-to-undermine-twitter-accounts/#comment-272 underdogblogger Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:45:17 +0000 http://underdogblog.wordpress.com/?p=243#comment-272 Hey Chris....well, I've got the code if you've got monetization :) Hey Chris….well, I’ve got the code if you’ve got monetization :)

]]> Comment on 243 Or How to undermine twitter accounts by chris http://underdogblog.wordpress.com/2009/09/30/243-or-how-to-undermine-twitter-accounts/#comment-271 chris Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:18:05 +0000 http://underdogblog.wordpress.com/?p=243#comment-271 while there are nefarious individuals on the net (in general) and twitter (in particular) one thing i thought about a lot before getting genesis rocket is how it HAS to work. it HAS to work because if it didn't, if it toppled under its' own weight, it would affect all of its' users and especially its' affiliates. rumors travel fast on twitter -- the story of michael jackson's death broke on twitter before major news engines published any confirmations, and the search traffic was so heavy that google assumed there was a spam attack and blocked all "michael jackson" search queries. if someone did build a twitter doomsday device like in your scenario, it wouldn't be long after it started hijacking accounts before the author was shut down, and i'm guessing some scorned user would make a vigilant watchdog. because of the massive volunteer police force on twitter, nothing that would *actually* qualify as a scam (and quite a few things that aren't or ride the border) can last very long because people love to gossip about stuff like that, which would damage the integrity of the script. and i think just because your product was free, doesn't necessarily mean it would be safe from smear campaigns. once you started doing bad things with it, people would start noticing. sure it would take down a lot of accounts with it, and it wouldn't be the affected users that would do the catching (not at first anyway) but people have gotten pretty good at figuring out how to take and post screenshots of twitter pages to record particularly memorable tweets, and that would provide proof that the spam-o-matic was doing the dirty work. it's an amusing hypothetical scenario, but anything that works like that would have a limited life span. and my guess is that after making a successful (albeit free) product, the author would find more value trying to monetize the list of users he's just acquired -- through offering premium services, or a mailing list, or something -- than sabotaging it by just maliciously shutting down twitter accounts he doesn't like. while there are nefarious individuals on the net (in general) and twitter (in particular) one thing i thought about a lot before getting genesis rocket is how it HAS to work. it HAS to work because if it didn’t, if it toppled under its’ own weight, it would affect all of its’ users and especially its’ affiliates. rumors travel fast on twitter — the story of michael jackson’s death broke on twitter before major news engines published any confirmations, and the search traffic was so heavy that google assumed there was a spam attack and blocked all “michael jackson” search queries. if someone did build a twitter doomsday device like in your scenario, it wouldn’t be long after it started hijacking accounts before the author was shut down, and i’m guessing some scorned user would make a vigilant watchdog. because of the massive volunteer police force on twitter, nothing that would *actually* qualify as a scam (and quite a few things that aren’t or ride the border) can last very long because people love to gossip about stuff like that, which would damage the integrity of the script. and i think just because your product was free, doesn’t necessarily mean it would be safe from smear campaigns. once you started doing bad things with it, people would start noticing. sure it would take down a lot of accounts with it, and it wouldn’t be the affected users that would do the catching (not at first anyway) but people have gotten pretty good at figuring out how to take and post screenshots of twitter pages to record particularly memorable tweets, and that would provide proof that the spam-o-matic was doing the dirty work.

it’s an amusing hypothetical scenario, but anything that works like that would have a limited life span. and my guess is that after making a successful (albeit free) product, the author would find more value trying to monetize the list of users he’s just acquired — through offering premium services, or a mailing list, or something — than sabotaging it by just maliciously shutting down twitter accounts he doesn’t like.

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]]> Comment on 243 Or How to undermine twitter accounts by Josh http://underdogblog.wordpress.com/2009/09/30/243-or-how-to-undermine-twitter-accounts/#comment-269 Josh Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:29:25 +0000 http://underdogblog.wordpress.com/?p=243#comment-269 The links are nofollow on Twitter. The links are nofollow on Twitter.

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]]> Comment on 2cents on Music by Dan http://underdogblog.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/2cents-on-music/#comment-266 Dan Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:43:20 +0000 http://underdogblog.wordpress.com/?p=241#comment-266 One question - where do I get my hands on an underdogblogger guitar?!? I think your line regarding the Robbie Williams lifestyle really sums it up. I mean if you want to live comfortable and play music - put a donation link up on your music site and let the fans decide how much you deserve! lol One question – where do I get my hands on an underdogblogger guitar?!?

I think your line regarding the Robbie Williams lifestyle really sums it up. I mean if you want to live comfortable and play music – put a donation link up on your music site and let the fans decide how much you deserve! lol

]]> Comment on 2cents on Music by underdogblogger http://underdogblog.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/2cents-on-music/#comment-264 underdogblogger Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:14:38 +0000 http://underdogblog.wordpress.com/?p=241#comment-264 Thanks for stopping by Ashley. Good to hear the Enormous ep at http://enormousreloaded.com/secrets-andwives-free-ep/ Thanks for stopping by Ashley. Good to hear the Enormous ep at http://enormousreloaded.com/secrets-andwives-free-ep/

]]> Comment on 2cents on Music by Ashley Morgan http://underdogblog.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/2cents-on-music/#comment-263 Ashley Morgan Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:58:20 +0000 http://underdogblog.wordpress.com/?p=241#comment-263 Great post. The part about people being scared of the immediate feedback is absolutely true. Write good music and it will go everywhere. But only if you let it be heard. Great post. The part about people being scared of the immediate feedback is absolutely true.

Write good music and it will go everywhere. But only if you let it be heard.

]]> Comment on I can’t take the suspense by underdogblogger http://underdogblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/i-cant-take-the-suspense/#comment-262 underdogblogger Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:25:19 +0000 http://underdogblog.wordpress.com/?p=222#comment-262 quite right Chris. I have no problem with the technical side of things - I write code for a living and such, but this blog originally set out to explore how to make money online with free resources. I've abandoned that theme now and I don't post much here anymore, but for what it is, and the traffic it gets, it just isn't worth the domain name fees to me..... :) quite right Chris. I have no problem with the technical side of things – I write code for a living and such, but this blog originally set out to explore how to make money online with free resources. I’ve abandoned that theme now and I don’t post much here anymore, but for what it is, and the traffic it gets, it just isn’t worth the domain name fees to me….. :)

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